CTV+CSFS: Can we reach consensus on a first step towards covenants?

Posted by stevenroose

Mar 12, 2025/14:50 UTC

The discussion revolves around the comparison and contrasts between different Bitcoin protocol enhancements, particularly focusing on CTV (CheckTemplateVerify), CSFS, APO (ANYPREVOUT), and the TXHASH approach. The core argument is that while CTV+CSFS is somewhat more expensive than APO due to the necessity of including the CTV hash in the witness data, it still achieves similar functionality. This, however, does not extend to all APO flags, as CTV+CSFS can only emulate APO|ALL. The TXHASH proposal is highlighted as a significant improvement, offering a taproot-only solution which simplifies certain aspects by removing policy considerations for the relay of bare-CTV transactions and addressing unsatisfiability concerns with CTV in P2SH contexts.

The implementation of TXHASH, despite its potential benefits, is described as not simplifying changes but rather increasing technical debt and the potential for bugs significantly compared to CTV. Nonetheless, it's noted that TXHASH has not received the anticipated attention and its deployment might be premature. Additionally, the use of lazy caches in TXHASH is mentioned to mitigate impacts on IBD (Initial Block Download) or transaction validation processes without TXHASH opcodes.

Furthermore, the conversation touches upon the utility of CTV beyond its direct application, such as facilitating faster payment protocols by eliminating unnecessary round-trips, thus potentially reducing payment times if widely adopted. Despite this, there seems to be a lack of prioritization for integrating technologies like eltoo within the Lightning Network, attributed to the network's focus on immediate pragmatic improvements over long-term experimental features.

A practical exploration into using CTV, based on an experiment conducted, is shared, indicating that CTV can serve as a practical tool for developers. The experiment involved replacing musig-cosigned transaction trees with ctv-based ones, showing promising results such as code reduction and simplified interaction protocols. However, the relevance of this experiment to the broader discussion is questioned.

Lastly, the discussion considers the potential of CSFS and CAT in simplifying and enhancing DLCs (Discreet Log Contracts), suggesting that while they offer efficient and flexible solutions, they may compromise the discreetness that is central to DLCs' appeal. This underscores the trade-offs between enhancing protocol efficiency and maintaining key features like privacy and discreetness in contract execution.

In summary, the discourse navigates through the nuances of various Bitcoin protocol proposals, weighing their merits, challenges, and practical implications for developers and the broader ecosystem. The emphasis is on understanding how these technologies can coalesce to improve transaction efficiency, reduce technical complexity, and enhance user experience, all while acknowledging the importance of discretion and privacy in contract execution.

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